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  • #16
    Originally posted by MegaTideFan View Post
    So you'd rather have sexual predators go free than have a law than sounds un-PC? That's great.

    As far as abuse (which means that it can be used properly). Do you really think a prosecutor in 2013 can get away with charging consenting gays? Paula Deen has lost every business venture she has in a matter of a week thanks to the Internet.
    It doesn't sound un-PC, it is counter to the vast majority of societies and the courts positions in this day and age. And we all know the government would never abuse things like warrantless wiretaps or IRS investigations and so forth especially in this internet age. And as far as Paula Deen goes, it seems to depend on some awful fickle factors when you look at Deen vs. Baldwin and what he has consistently gotten away with. So I'd just as soon have the law and not some facebook uprising as protection against stupid fanatics.

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    • #17
      Maybe Cuccinelli and MTF are Michael Douglas fans and want to protect the rest of us from his fate.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by MegaTideFan View Post
        What none of you stupid fucks fail to recognize is that sodomy laws aren't used to go after consenting queers. They're used to go after sexual predators of all ages.
        Texas called, they'd like to refute that statement. Cops in Houston and Dallas used to bust consenting queers all the time for just being in bed together, before Texas was told to halt such nonsense.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by MegaTideFan View Post
          So you'd rather have sexual predators go free than have a law than sounds un-PC?
          Virginia's laws, based on my rudimentary search where I opened the first result on a Google search, cover all kinds of offenses against minors, it doesn't look like they need this law for prosecution of child molesters.

          http://www.vdh.virginia.gov/ofhs/pre...s/statutes.pdf

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          • #20
            Originally posted by jcr View Post
            He did not ask for laws specifically targeting child abusers, he asked for the reinstatement of the broad general laws that would equally apply to adults. If the goal is targeting child abusers, then that should be the target.

            The stupid fuck in this situation is the guy looking to reinstate laws that would apply to consenting adults .. and then just trusting the government to do the right thing. Yeah, fucking right.
            Sodomy laws are also used to charge offenders who attack adults.

            Again I ask: do you think in 2013 a district atty could get away with prosecuting a gay couple for consensual sex? Look at what protestors did in order to protect infanticide...you don't think the pink mafia would unleash all hell fury on the county that tried that?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by MegaTideFan View Post
              Sodomy laws are also used to charge offenders who attack adults.

              Again I ask: do you think in 2013 a district atty could get away with prosecuting a gay couple for consensual sex?


              Yes, a DA could charge but I can't believe 12 jurors would vote for conviction.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by beantown23 View Post
                Yes, a DA could charge but I can't believe 12 jurors would vote for conviction.
                The DA that did so would do so at his own peril. No way he'd ever be reelected if he were allowed to finish his term.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by MegaTideFan View Post
                  Sodomy laws are also used to charge offenders who attack adults.

                  Again I ask: do you think in 2013 a district atty could get away with prosecuting a gay couple for consensual sex? Look at what protestors did in order to protect infanticide...you don't think the pink mafia would unleash all hell fury on the county that tried that?
                  And again I ask, as a lawyer especially, you are OK with America needing riots to ensure justice?

                  If the legislators are too dumb to make a law covering that particular crime, if the sodomy was non-consensual I'm pretty sure a charge of at least aggravated assault could work and the judge could sentence the perp to the max.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by dudmuck View Post
                    i'd like to see how they'd enforce this.
                    Obama's NSA, CIA and FBI already have monitoring in place searching for terrorists who prefer anal.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by RNG View Post
                      And again I ask, as a lawyer especially, you are OK with America needing riots to ensure justice?
                      Who says that's the case, other than in your own little made up head? If we had to chuck laws bc of prosecutorial misconduct, we'd have no criminal code at all.



                      If the legislators are too dumb to make a law covering that particular crime, if the sodomy was non-consensual I'm pretty sure a charge of at least aggravated assault could work and the judge could sentence the perp to the max.
                      And then the offender wouldn't be subject to Megan's law. But as someone with no American legal training or education, I wouldn't expect you to think of stuff like that.



                      I Guess gays > sexual assault victims for libs.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by MegaTideFan View Post
                        Who says that's the case, other than in your own little made up head? If we had to chuck laws bc of prosecutorial misconduct, we'd have no criminal code at all.

                        And then the offender wouldn't be subject to Megan's law. But as someone with no American legal training or education, I wouldn't expect you to think of stuff like that.

                        I Guess gays > sexual assault victims for libs.
                        Yes, too bad one or a few guys get a "break" or whatever. So pass an intelligent law quickly so that the next guy can be hammered. Still a small price to pay to not have that law resurrected.

                        But at a more pragmatic level, do you really think that law could survive further appeals even if this action is granted? And so nothing changes in the end.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by RNG View Post
                          Yes, too bad one or a few guys get a "break" or whatever. So pass an intelligent law quickly so that the next guy can be hammered. Still a small price to pay to not have that law resurrected.

                          But at a more pragmatic level, do you really think that law could survive further appeals even if this action is granted? And so nothing changes in the end.
                          how do you think lawyers make money?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Who View Post
                            how do you think lawyers make money?
                            Well, yeah, nothing changes other than there being a bunch of richer lawyers.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by MegaTideFan View Post
                              Sodomy laws are also used to charge offenders who attack adults.

                              Again I ask: do you think in 2013 a district atty could get away with prosecuting a gay couple for consensual sex? Look at what protestors did in order to protect infanticide...you don't think the pink mafia would unleash all hell fury on the county that tried that?
                              Ultimately, no, they probably would not get away with it. Although look at the current shit that the government is getting away with .. some of that seems unfathomable also. While I think that the probability is low that this would ultimately be successful in attacking gays (or anyone when you get to the oral part), why take the chance. Why reinstate a law that you know is flawed? How about making a few new laws that are VERY specifically geared to child abusers.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by jcr View Post
                                Ultimately, no, they probably would not get away with it. Although look at the current shit that the government is getting away with .. some of that seems unfathomable also. While I think that the probability is low that this would ultimately be successful in attacking gays (or anyone when you get to the oral part), why take the chance. Why reinstate a law that you know is flawed? How about making a few new laws that are VERY specifically geared to child abusers.
                                Something you tards keep ignoring is that sodomy charges are often brought in adult sexual assault cases.

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