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  • #31
    Please don't waste anybody's time claiming that Chump's spygate allegations are anything but the fevered imagination of an apparent conspiracy nut.

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    • #32
      So Trump has been under investigation since July 2016. Hmmm. I wonder if those doing the investigating ever did any spying on him?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by CHEEZY08 View Post
        So Trump has been under investigation since July 2016. Hmmm. I wonder if those doing the investigating ever did any spying on him?
        Was it Chump or folks that he hired that he might not know everything about?

        And what does that have to do with microwaves spying on him in his golden palace?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by CHEEZY08 View Post
          So Trump has been under investigation since July 2016. Hmmm. I wonder if those doing the investigating ever did any spying on him?
          In a manner undetectable to the POTUS which everyone who would be in a position to know is currently denying under oath?

          That's a pretty deep state.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by CHEEZY08 View Post
            So Trump has been under investigation since July 2016. Hmmm. I wonder if those doing the investigating ever did any spying on him?
            Just remember they were doing the investigation from the Russia end. If that's the case, then Russians were under surveillance and , surprise, surprise, the people they were talking to turned out to be Trump campaign people.

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            • #36
              It just seems odd that for what he is supposedly under investigation for that there wouldnt have been any spying. A logical assumption is that they would go hand in hand. Wouldnt that be part of the investigation?

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              • #37
                Originally posted by CHEEZY08 View Post
                It just seems odd that for what he is supposedly under investigation for that there wouldnt have been any spying. A logical assumption is that they would go hand in hand. Wouldnt that be part of the investigation?
                The investigation wasn't into Trump, it is into Russian election interference and possible links to the Trump campaign.

                Yet again, everyone who would be in a position to know about it has now gone on record flatly denying spying on Trump, some of them under oath. The only accused party which has not yet commented is his microwave. Trump himself can request to see any and all documents held by the federal government. There is no evidence and hiding it from the POTUS would require a pretty massive conspiracy. Think about it.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by CHEEZY08 View Post
                  It just seems odd that for what he is supposedly under investigation for that there wouldnt have been any spying. A logical assumption is that they would go hand in hand. Wouldnt that be part of the investigation?
                  Couldn't get a judge with the balls to authorize a wire tap on a Presidential candidate for espionage. Really, the norms are just thrown out because of who Trump is and what he does.

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                  • #39
                    BTW, we've had plenty of quirky Presidents in the past, and I'd not be surprised if they believed some pretty weird things.

                    The problem for this one is they're all out there for everyone to see, 'cause he tweets anything that comes into his head with no apparent forethought.

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                    • #40
                      I doubt anyone will bat an eye if they don't find Trump Tower was bugged. He probably just asked someone he was having dinner with where they would get this crazy idea he wsa working with Moscow and they replied, "maybe they've bugged your phones lol!" and he flipped on on Twitter.

                      Still, I guess it will be sad when the election still just comes down to one sucky candidate against a more sucky candidate.
                      Dreams dashed,....sorrow

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by on2muchcoffee View Post
                        I doubt anyone will bat an eye if they don't find Trump Tower was bugged. He probably just asked someone he was having dinner with where they would get this crazy idea he wsa working with Moscow and they replied, "maybe they've bugged your phones lol!" and he flipped on on Twitter.
                        And this conversation happened just after Levin's conspiracy theory got an airing on Breitbart, by pure coinkydink. Then Trump claimed it was from mainstream sources that didn't say it, because lying is habitual for him.

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                        • #42
                          Trump himself has stated that he got the idea from "News Reports". It was blatantly obvious from day 1 that it was as absolutely horseshit allegation. There's never been any evidence for it at all - just the word of a man who is known as an unrepentant liar and conspiracy theorist. Yet here we are, a couple of weeks and a couple of global incidents later, and the director of the FBI is testifying under oath about it. And his supporters are STILL hesitant to accept that it was a lie. It's incredible.

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                          • #43
                            I'm willing to accept that Chump doesn't think it's a lie.

                            I find that even more damning for the "leader of the free world."

                            To find out that he appears to lack the ability to conduct critical thinking and weigh the actual legitimacy of information he's presented is "just a little" scary.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by FSchmertz View Post
                              Please don't waste anybody's time claiming that Chump's spygate allegations are anything but the fevered imagination of an apparent conspiracy nut.
                              I think you should delete "conspiracy" from your post.

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                              • #45
                                Schiff said tonight you don't have to see it snow to know it snowed. If you wake up in the morning and there's snow on the ground that wasn't there last night, you've got the evidence you need to infer it snowed. That's how he characterizes the circumstantial evidence of Trump and Russia cooperation.

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