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  • Top 7 POTUS all time list

    Why seven? Because I created the muthafuckin' thread, bitches.

    What does your list look like?

    1. Lincoln
    2. FDR
    3. Eisenhower
    4. Jefferson
    5. Truman
    6. Obama
    7. Reagan

  • #2
    No problem with Lincoln as #1. I read how skilled he was as a politician. But youngot something against Washington?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by charliesheen View Post
      No problem with Lincoln as #1. I read how skilled he was as a politician. But youngot something against Washington?
      No, not at all. Being the first president doesnt grant him an exalted status. Great general who had nearly an entire nation wanting him to succeed. IMO, thats pretty hard to fuck up. Hell, even Carter would do fine under those circumstances

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      • #4
        The British couldn't understand why Washington settled for anything less than "The Emperor." Or King George I.

        His refusal to even entertain the idea was a key moment in U.S. History. And he HAD to take the #1 President gig even though he didn't really want it, for the sake of the country he had already sacrificed so much for.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by biker View Post

          No, not at all. Being the first president doesnt grant him an exalted status. Great general who had nearly an entire nation wanting him to succeed. IMO, thats pretty hard to fuck up. Hell, even Carter would do fine under those circumstances
          I think you overestimate his support during the Revolution. He worked with few resources for a long while and with seemingly very little hope.

          A whole lot of people didn't want to leave the Empire, and I'm betting most of the rest didn't really care one way or the other. Though I'm sure most of those became flag-waving Patriots as soon as the conflict was over.

          P.S. Sorry, I made the incorrect assumption that calling him a General meant you were talking about anything but his first presidency. But the comment about refusing an imperial presidency for the worshipful masses still stands. And the fact he took the responsibility even though it was clear he'd rather have retired to private life.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by FSchmertz View Post
            I think you overestimate his support during the Revolution. He worked with few resources for a long while and with seemingly very little hope.

            A whole lot of people didn't want to leave the Empire, and I'm betting most of the rest didn't really care one way or the other. Though I'm sure most of those became flag-waving Patriots as soon as the conflict was over.
            Not talking about during the Revolution, but rather his presidency. I am aware of the 1/3, 1/3, 1/3 divide in the 1770s
            Last edited by biker; 04-07-2017, 11:32 AM. Reason: Recinded my cunty, condescending tone to help ease forum tensions

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            • #7
              Originally posted by biker View Post

              Not talking about during the Revolution, but rather his presidency. I am fully aware of the 1/3, 1/3, 1/3 divide in the 1770s
              Yeah, note I had amended my comment.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by FSchmertz View Post
                Yeah, note I had amended my comment.
                Amended right back at ya

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by FSchmertz View Post
                  The British couldn't understand why Washington settled for anything less than "The Emperor." Or King George I.

                  His refusal to even entertain the idea was a key moment in U.S. History. And he HAD to take the #1 President gig even though he didn't really want it, for the sake of the country he had already sacrificed so much for.
                  That scene from gladiator where the emporer want Maximus to follow him and Maximus wants no part of it fits that perfectly. "That's why it must be you"*



                  *or something like that.

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                  • #10
                    No love for brother Teddy?

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                    • #11
                      I don't see Truman or Eisenhower earning their place on this list, not over Washington, Adams, or Teddy. If dropping nukes is what elevates Truman, why not put Andrew Jackson on there and praise his willingness to murder Indians for America? And Sure Eisenhower was organized and liked but he was presiding over an unprecedented economy standing tall over the rubble of WW2, and in his exit address warned everyone about the dangers of our MI complex that he had the biggest hand in creating.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by posthuman View Post
                        I don't see Truman or Eisenhower earning their place on this list, not over Washington, Adams, or Teddy. If dropping nukes is what elevates Truman, why not put Andrew Jackson on there and praise his willingness to murder Indians for America? And Sure Eisenhower was organized and liked but he was presiding over an unprecedented economy standing tall over the rubble of WW2, and in his exit address warned everyone about the dangers of our MI complex that he had the biggest hand in creating.
                        Truman: Ending the war, having the balls to use the atom bomb was an enormous benchmark in 20th century history. Also, he chauffeured the Marshall Plan into passage as well as played a key roll in establishing the UN.

                        Eisenhower is the father of our interstate system, which has shaped, for better and worse, the urban geography of this country. He also ushered in the civil rights movement and was the president who sent federal troops into Little Rock to enforce desegregation, much to the chagrin of Bill Clinton's mentor and idol William Fulbright. And oh, he lead the SCIENCE!!!111!!! advancement into the 21st century with the establishment of NASA and other government science orgs

                        I considered TR, but if conservation of lands was his significant achievement, then you would need to include Nixon in the conversation, for it can be argued that he has done more for the environmental movement that TR

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                        • #13
                          You certainly are a force for contradiction. Your reasons for Truman and Eisenhower being top 7 are big government, globalist programs, the opposite of the direction Trump is taking us. Make up your mind!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by posthuman View Post
                            You certainly are a force for contradiction. Your reasons for Truman and Eisenhower being top 7 are big government, globalist programs, the opposite of the direction Trump is taking us. Make up your mind!
                            One of the great leaders in human history once said, 'I'd prefer to be right than consistent'

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                            • #15
                              Eisenhower had a pretty impressive body of work.

                              He had the stones to warn the world of the military industrial complex.

                              http://www.history.com/this-day-in-h...strial-complex

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