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The GOPs problem on health reform is theyve spent years hiding their real position

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  • #31
    I could get behind a sort of national sales tax. Maybe half of a percent. That way everyone has skin in the game and even the people who choose to fuck the system by not buying in directly still have to contribute.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by brasspair View Post
      Not even close.

      Tell you what. You make the call, coffee-tard, Who's the bigger idiot, the voters or the one they voted for ?

      Donald J. Trump made coal miners a central metaphor of his presidential campaign, promising to
      put our miners back to work and look after their interests in a way that the Obama administration did not.
      Now, three months into his presidency, comes a test of that promise.
      Unless Congress intervenes by late April, government-funded health benefits will abruptly lapse for more than 20,000 retired miners, concentrated in Trump states that include Pennsylvania, Ohio and West Virginia. Many of the miners have serious health problems arising from their years in the mines.
      You are. You are so wrapped up in your hate and butthurt you'll dismiss people who side with the greater good.

      You are an idiot and truly show everything wrong with the 2 party system. And you'll damage any chance for moving forward being the blind dipshit you are.

      Enjoy Trump. You earned him.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by CHEEZY08 View Post
        I could get behind a sort of national sales tax. Maybe half of a percent. That way everyone has skin in the game and even the people who choose to fuck the system by not buying in directly still have to contribute.
        Likely 6 or 7, maybe higher. It hurts, but it hurts less than the shit we have now that just fucks people.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by on2muchcoffee View Post

          Likely 6 or 7, maybe higher. It hurts, but it hurts less than the shit we have now that just fucks people.
          If that 6 or 7 % eliminates my fucking outrageous monthly health insurance bill I might go for that. I could get behind an even swap if it stabilizes the system, reduces cost overall and forces all Americans to contribute via their spending because what we have now sure as shit isn't working.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by CHEEZY08 View Post

            If that 6 or 7 % eliminates my fucking outrageous monthly health insurance bill I might go for that. I could get behind an even swap if it stabilizes the system, reduces cost overall and forces all Americans to contribute via their spending because what we have now sure as shit isn't working.
            It goes deeper, but yes. Insurance becomes a boutique industry.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by on2muchcoffee View Post

              Likely 6 or 7, maybe higher. It hurts, but it hurts less than the shit we have now that just fucks people.
              I could get behind that, if 10% was spent on fraud prevention.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by charliesheen View Post

                I could get behind that, if 10% was spent on fraud prevention.
                I'd also like to see it managed at the state level. The country is too big and diverse for one size fits all solutions.

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                • #38
                  It really would be nice if our politicians would be working shit like this out. I'm hearing legitimate solutions endorsed by people with widely varying political beliefs here. Shocking.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by charliesheen View Post

                    I could get behind that, if 10% was spent on fraud prevention.
                    An independent arm for fraud prevention by all means, but pulling the level of funding it needs from your ass is a bad idea.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by on2muchcoffee View Post
                      You are. You are so wrapped up in your hate and butthurt you'll dismiss people who side with the greater good.

                      You are an idiot and truly show everything wrong with the 2 party system. And you'll damage any chance for moving forward being the blind dipshit you are.

                      Enjoy Trump. You earned him.
                      Riiiiiiiiight. Your response is to disconnect your brain and go full flaming contard.

                      Enjoy your stay. You certainly earned it and are actively working to perpetuate it.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by CHEEZY08 View Post

                        If that 6 or 7 % eliminates my fucking outrageous monthly health insurance bill I might go for that. I could get behind an even swap if it stabilizes the system, reduces cost overall and forces all Americans to contribute via their spending because what we have now sure as shit isn't working.
                        That would be fine if you dis-encentivized corporations paying for employees. Eliminate the write off. If they still want to pay post tax, let them. It was a good idea but ended up just corrupting things.

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