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  • #46
    Did I read the article? You've glossed over the 4th paragraph where it mentions the secret back-channel to bypass US national security.
    Also you gloss over the fact that Trump wanted pledge of loyalty from Comey.

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    • #47
      Just now reading that Flynn, while a paid agent of Turkey, vetoed a strike against ISIS that Turkey had objected to. Trump knew he was a foreign agent when this decision was made.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Par10 View Post
        Are you saying that Comey lied about having to report the suspected crime of Hillary's emails?
        Nope. Comey's reason for informing congress of reopening an investigation was that he had informed congress it had been closed and wanted to correct the record. It was a mistake on his part, but it wasn't reporting a crime, or really in any way analogous.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by AnalHamster View Post
          So just to be clear on just how stupid you are, your position is that any law enforcement officer learning of any suspected felony is committing a crime if they do not immediately report it to a prosecutor? This problem doesn't require wiki or google noley, it just requires an IQ of something over 20.
          Under the law, Comey is required to immediately inform the Department of Justice of any attempt to obstruct justice by any person, even the President of the United States. Failure to do so would result in criminal charges against Comey. (18 USC 4 and 28 USC 1361) He would also, upon sufficient proof, lose his license to practice law.

          So, if Comey believed Trump attempted to obstruct justice, did he comply with the law by reporting it to the DOJ? If not, it calls into question whether the events occurred as the Times reported it.

          http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/...ut-powder.html

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          • #50
            Originally posted by pete rose haircut View Post

            Under the law, Comey is required to immediately inform the Department of Justice of any attempt to obstruct justice by any person, even the President of the United States. Failure to do so would result in criminal charges against Comey. (18 USC 4 and 28 USC 1361) He would also, upon sufficient proof, lose his license to practice law.

            So, if Comey believed Trump attempted to obstruct justice, did he comply with the law by reporting it to the DOJ? If not, it calls into question whether the events occurred as the Times reported it.

            http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/...ut-powder.html
            Based on the events as reported and wording as reported, it seems the memo and probably a verbal report did take place. The nuts and bolts of Comey reporting to Justice don't necessarily include some public statement that might jeopardize an ongoing investigation.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by pete rose haircut View Post

              Under the law, Comey is required to immediately inform the Department of Justice of any attempt to obstruct justice by any person, even the President of the United States. Failure to do so would result in criminal charges against Comey. (18 USC 4 and 28 USC 1361) He would also, upon sufficient proof, lose his license to practice law.

              So, if Comey believed Trump attempted to obstruct justice, did he comply with the law by reporting it to the DOJ? If not, it calls into question whether the events occurred as the Times reported it.

              http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/...ut-powder.html
              This Fox bullshit has already been debunked. Try and keep up.

              http://uselessjunk.net/safe-for-work...71#post6263671

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              • #52
                Originally posted by pete rose haircut View Post

                Under the law, Comey is required to immediately inform the Department of Justice of any attempt to obstruct justice by any person, even the President of the United States. Failure to do so would result in criminal charges against Comey. (18 USC 4 and 28 USC 1361) He would also, upon sufficient proof, lose his license to practice law.

                So, if Comey believed Trump attempted to obstruct justice, did he comply with the law by reporting it to the DOJ? If not, it calls into question whether the events occurred as the Times reported it.

                http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/...ut-powder.html
                Nope, some doofus saying it on fox news doesn't make it so. You would be required to report a felony to the authorities, the authorities are not required to report it to themselves though, which would of course be retarded. Comey is going to testify, his testimony will include everything he documented about Trump's shenanigans, and he took detailed notes which he disseminated at the time. He is not going to be indicted for failing to report it to trump appointees, because that is just a bullshit theory from a moron who said something stupid that fox wanted to hear.

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                • #53
                  Jesus Christ, this asshole just cant keep his mouth shut.



                  Trump brags to Russians about firing 'nut job' Comey


                  President Donald Trump bragged to two top Russian officials last week that firing "nut job" FBI Director James Comey eased "great pressure" on him, The New York Times reported Friday.

                  "I just fired the head of the FBI. He was crazy, a real nut job," Trump said, according to the Times. "I faced great pressure because of Russia. That's taken off."

                  https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/19/u...sia-comey.html

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by AnalHamster View Post

                      Nope, some doofus saying it on fox news doesn't make it so. You would be required to report a felony to the authorities, the authorities are not required to report it to themselves though, which would of course be retarded. Comey is going to testify, his testimony will include everything he documented about Trump's shenanigans, and he took detailed notes which he disseminated at the time. He is not going to be indicted for failing to report it to trump appointees, because that is just a bullshit theory from a moron who said something stupid that fox wanted to hear.
                      Of course that would be retarded, the FBI doesn't have the authority to prosecute. Once an investigator believes they have sufficient evidence to prove that a crime has been committed and by who it gets turned over to the proper prosecuting authority.

                      In this case if Trump went to Comey in private and told him to drop the Flynn investigation or else I would think that's sufficient evidence to show that Trump's guilty of obstruction of justice. What's left to investigate?

                      So either,
                      a. It never happened.

                      b. It did and Comey failed to report it to the DOJ.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by pete rose haircut View Post

                        Of course that would be retarded, the FBI doesn't have the authority to prosecute. Once an investigator believes they have sufficient evidence to prove that a crime has been committed and by who it gets turned over to the proper prosecuting authority.

                        In this case if Trump went to Comey in private and told him to drop the Flynn investigation or else I would think that's sufficient evidence to show that Trump's guilty of obstruction of justice. What's left to investigate?

                        So either,
                        a. It never happened.

                        b. It did and Comey failed to report it to the DOJ.
                        Or c. You just changed what happened in order to say if that happened then it must be a or b. Trump did not say drop it or else, he did ask for a loyalty pledge and ask if Comey could 'let it go' with Flynn because he was such a good guy and all. Tough to prove the corrupt intent element of obstruction there, which it would not be if he threatened Comey while making the same request. For all the denials of the obsessive hillary hunters, intent does actually matter and you could argue Trump is just staggeringly ignorant and incompetent. However, there is now more to the case because on top of Comey's testimony about Trump's borderline request we now have trump admitting, twice, that he fired comey over the investigation. The case for obstruction just got a whole lot stronger based on that.

                        Though of course, that still does not mean the case can be brought. Trump is the President, the head of the DOJ is his buddy Sessions. It's not the same situation as it would be with any other citizen. With a cast iron case from another accidental confession by Trump, and an AG who'd actually do it, Trump still could not be indicted because he is POTUS. Congress would have to impeach him and remove him from office before he is open to prosecution.

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                        • #57
                          Org charts are like.. hard and stuff.

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                          • #58
                            You've already demonstrated you do not dare address what I say, if you can't find your big boy pants I'm going to keep ignoring your yipping. After Comey testifies and doesn't face charges for not reporting to himself, I will just bump the thread and mock you.

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                            • #59
                              Poor sociopathic, low self esteem Sybil... It's not that people dare not address you, they just tire of your games. Like this one, where the standard becomes whether or not Comey faces charges. While nothing would amuse me more than Comey being escorted out in cuffs, I have little hope of it happening. Rather, the most likely outcome is Comey sheepishly admitting under oath that no, he did not really think Trump was pressuring him, thus the reason for not following through with the reporting up the DOJ as he was required to do had it been a real obstruction of justice.

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                              • #60
                                As in the book, 1984, history was constantly being rewritten to suit the current political climate.
                                NOW
                                A few months ago, democrats were calling for Comey's head because he interfered with Hillary getting elected.
                                Now, Comey is their shining star in his struggle to take down Trump.

                                Truth is stranger than fiction.

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