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  • What happens when this Russia bullshit is over, will you guys admit you were wrong?

    I admit it, I thought Hillary was going to win the election, I thought Comey was going to recommend indictment. I also thought Tom Brady was overrated after the first SB because of the Tuck Rule call.

    That notwithstanding, when this latest barrage of bullshit claims that will surely have him impeached don't pan out, and the SP finds him innocent, anyone gonna come here and admit that they were wrong?

    Shit, Dandy has been wrong about Trumps demise three times on three seperate issues in the past two weeks or so.

    I have a feeling not one of you will have the stones to admit being wrong. Comey basically said Hillary broke the law, and said anyone else who would have done it could be in trouble, and was fired for his bullshit "intent" excuse, and Post still won't admit she is guilty of anything.

    Any takers after the Comeygate? Or the SC saying he did not commit a crime? Because the SC can only charge if a crime is committed. If you think he is going to take a political stand you are wrong. Only Comey did that, and he lost his job for it.

    I will be bumping this thread when this shit is over. Or you guys could bump it if it turns out Trump is colliding with the Russians to give Hillary the popular vote but not the electoral vote. Talk about precision.

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    It's not about your strawman at the end there, you partisan tit. There's a prima facie case against Flynn that is likely to result in a plea deal, we know that Trump knew about him being compromised when he appointed him NSA, knew that he lied to Pence when he did it, and still kept him on until forced to fire him by the leaks he keeps whining about. Now we're hearing there's someone still there who has become a subject of interest. Meanwhile Trump fired Comey over the investigation into his associates and admitted it, in a tv interview and to the Russkies in the oval office. Even republicans are starting to admit there needs to be an independent investigation, you just won't accept anything less than a guilty plea from Trump as evidence that an investigation needs to even start, because you are a partisan hack and also a moron. The investigation cannot find less than has already been found, which is not nothing. If it winds up finding nothing more and finding incompetence rather than collusion that does not change the fact that an investigation is needed.

    You still won't admit there were no criminal charges against hillary, just incompetence. If you think it was all Comey and Lynch covering for her, the Trump DOJ is free to take it to court and prove Comey right. People who are doing a gunzen and already concluded Trump is a Russian agent will no doubt dismiss the results of the investigation if it doesn't fit their starting conclusion, as will people doing a gunzen from the other direction, like you. All non retarded people want an investigation into where all this smoke is coming, regardless of whether they are hoping for more fire.

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    • #3
      Stopped after tit remark. I just don't have it in me today to be insulted. Have a nice day.

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      • #4
        You read it all, decided you couldn't reply and went with your standard excuse. Poor widdle snowflake.

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        • #5
          Hillary lost, she's irrelevant.
          Originally posted by IwasGunzen View Post
          That notwithstanding, when this latest barrage of bullshit claims that will surely have him impeached don't pan out, and the SP finds him innocent, anyone gonna come here and admit that they were wrong?
          New shit comes out every day, such as Russia bragging they can use Flynn to influence Trump.
          There is certainly enough for obstruction of justice because it doesnt require a crime to be committed.
          Mueller has been given authority to investigate possibility of a coverup. Trump admitted it to Lester Holt on NBC.

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          • #6
            Dims dont see it but theyre overplaying their hand. Enjoy

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            • #7
              Originally posted by biker View Post
              Dims dont see it but theyre overplaying their hand. Enjoy
              The facts are not a hand, they are a case being built. If you are saying there are Republicans that will never accept the truth, that was always the case.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by posthuman View Post

                The facts are not a hand, they are a case being built. If you are saying there are Republicans that will never accept the truth, that was always the case.
                And what exactly is the truth?

                Dims are attempting to spin this Russia thing as if the Russians hacked election machines and put Trump in office. Thats what they want the dimwitted gen pop to think

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                • #9
                  Hey, it worked for Chump, he got his folks believing all kinds of weird shit. Maybe the Democrats just learned truth is overrated from him?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by biker View Post

                    And what exactly is the truth?

                    Dims are attempting to spin this Russia thing as if the Russians hacked election machines and put Trump in office. Thats what they want the dimwitted gen pop to think
                    I can see why you would want to latch onto those kinds of things but they are unnecessary to prove either foreign interference or Trump campaign cooperation with that interference. I don't think it's a stretch to say any other candidate in the R or D field would have tried to distance themselves from stolen DNC/Podesta emails rather than reading them at rallies the day they came to light. You could say Trump is "different" and an "just taking his opportunity" but it's jarringly unethical. Combined with the unprecedented contact with Russian officials during the campaign and transition- most notably when changes were made to the Republican platform to be more Russia friendly- it's not really necessary to have a signed and sealed letter from Trump pledging loyalty to Russia in return for cyberattacks on his opponent in the election. The quid pro quo is laid out already.

                    Its almost an afterthought, a nail in the coffin that Trump has just this last week sought to undermine the FBI probe into these activities and admitted his reasoning was to get on with their deals they had been working on all that time.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by biker View Post

                      And what exactly is the truth?

                      Dims are attempting to spin this Russia thing as if the Russians hacked election machines and put Trump in office. Thats what they want the dimwitted gen pop to think
                      So you're going with dems overreaching, according to republicans, therefore the whole thing should be dropped? Flynn is in the bag already and Trump just fired the FBI director over it, how are you not seeing grounds for investigation? I said at the start I thought it was just regular old corruption and Trump being staggeringly incompetent, but there needs to be a full and thorough investigation to ensure that is the extent of it, and to put that on record as pretty damn significant on its own. A starting conclusion cannot replace an investigation and is subject to change pending the results, unless you are a moron.

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                      • #12
                        This is an excellent article, and at the National Review no less. There are some great comments from Republicans who are tiring of this mess, as well as the usual from folks like Gunzen, Nole, and chuck, whom this article seems to have been written both for, and about.

                        Burning Down His House

                        President Trumps self-inflicted wounds have rendered the cognitive dissonance of his defenders untenable.


                        http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...ance-untenable

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DandyDon View Post
                          This is an excellent article, and at the National Review no less. There are some great comments from Republicans who are tiring of this mess, as well as the usual from folks like Gunzen, Nole, and chuck, whom this article seems to have been written both for, and about.

                          Burning Down His House

                          President Trumps self-inflicted wounds have rendered the cognitive dissonance of his defenders untenable.


                          http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...ance-untenable
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                          It is true, to be sure, that politics requires the suppression of particular preferences for the good of the group. So does patriotism. If the argument was that Never Trumpers should forgo their opposition to Trump for the good of the party, surely there is a point at which the supposed good of the party must be considered in light of the good of the country. The latter cannot be served by a president this reckless. Trumps escapades from the intelligence-leaking to what was all but, and perhaps was, obstruction of justice have run out the clock on the dualism between the supposedly conservative agenda and the obviously unconservative disposition. It is time to reckon.
                          This is the part I tried to explain to coffee when he started his nonsense about "For the party!"...its the people still supporting Trumps antics in exchange for a few dangling fruits they view as victories that are blindly doing it "For the party!". The antics he is engaged in at this point should not be supported anymore even if you still hate Hillary's guts.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by dudmuck View Post
                            Hillary lost, she's irrelevant.

                            New shit comes out every day, such as Russia bragging they can use Flynn to influence Trump.
                            There is certainly enough for obstruction of justice because it doesnt require a crime to be committed.
                            Mueller has been given authority to investigate possibility of a coverup. Trump admitted it to Lester Holt on NBC.
                            No, he can only recommend charge if crime is committed, you are 100% wrong. And anything Russia says they can has nothing to do with Trump. Mueller would have to prove Trump committed a crime. This SC is the best thing for Trump. A cover up only matters if their is a crime. You need to read what a SC can do.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by stymiegreen View Post

                              This is the part I tried to explain to coffee when he started his nonsense about "For the party!"...its the people still supporting Trumps antics in exchange for a few dangling fruits they view as victories that are blindly doing it "For the party!". The antics he is engaged in at this point should not be supported anymore even if you still hate Hillary's guts.
                              Deregulation and the fact that they are deporting the fuck out of illegals, picking Gorsuch etc are not dangling fruits. You need to speak for yourself. I love what he is doing.

                              antics? What, tweeting too much? He is struggling to keep his mouth shut, but that is not important to me. Your whole premise is based on what other people think. And trust me, you are wrong.

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