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  • It would be fabulous if Meuller announced indictments for anyone in the Trump campaign before mid-terms. A Democratic congress would make an impeachment vote almost automatic and stop the damage the Republicans are doing instantly. Not that they're actually doing much via legislation.

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    • Originally posted by IwasGunzen View Post
      So what is your endgame goal? What do
      you want/expect to come from this when the investigation is all over?
      I only want truth to be told and law enforced.
      Even krauthammer says its collusion.
      But what is your end game? The republican party is currently dysfunctional, and will be so with or without Trump.

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      • I just want the GOP to do in practice what they claim in rhetoric: that they are the patriotic all-American party that abhors foreign influence and insists that no one is above the law, no matter the position they hold or the mundane nature of the law. The party that believes in what the founders meant in the Constitution more than how you could technically interpret it.

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        • Originally posted by dudmuck View Post

          I only want truth to be told and law enforced.
          Even krauthammer says its collusion.
          But what is your end game? The republican party is currently dysfunctional, and will be so with or without Trump.
          My endgame is for the GOP to get one more Justice before Kamilla wins in 2020. I would love to see the GOP keep both houses till then I would have thought it was a done deal the GOP would lose, but the way the Dems keep up with this spiteful shit and Trump keeps doing shit, I think the GOP had a chance.

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          • Originally posted by posthuman View Post
            I just want the GOP to do in practice what they claim in rhetoric: that they are the patriotic all-American party that abhors foreign influence and insists that no one is above the law, no matter the position they hold or the mundane nature of the law. The party that believes in what the founders meant in the Constitution more than how you could technically interpret it.
            Answer the question, what do you want the end result to be?

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                  • Originally posted by dudmuck View Post
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                    Memes are not eveidence. I have been watching CNN while working out and noticed they are still pounding away at this. There has been no new news, evidence or effect and they continue to just keep at it.

                    This is getting borderline psychotic.

                    I will ask you again, what is your end game here? What do you want or expect to happen from this.

                    It is weird, I asked both you and Post what you want and/or expect and you arenet answering. You both are just throwing up all over this thread about this.

                    What so you expect will come of this. What do you WANT to happen?

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                    • How is it not obvious? I want everyone that either colluded or abetted Russian interference in our election held responsible. Looks like Manafort, Kushner, Jr., Flynn and Page are a shoe-in for prison time. It's looking more likely that Trump is compromised, too.

                      If we don't, if the GOP won't hold their party leader accountable, the US is conceding that as long as you back the winner foreign influence is acceptable and invited in any US election. Can you imagine the Chinese openly buying mayors or whole councils to guarantee waste disposal or high risk manufacturing in desirable cities of the US, up to and including hacking voter rolls to purge likely dissenters for Election Day? Mexico publicly paying off border towns to create sanctuaries and accomplices in illicit border trade?

                      Foreign influence is unacceptable and always has been.

                      I know, you've got some stories on Breitbart about this happening before. That it ever happened before doesn't mean we allow it now. This is a crime and it must be punished.

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                      • Originally posted by posthuman View Post
                        How is it not obvious? I want everyone that either colluded or abetted Russian interference in our election held responsible. Looks like Manafort, Kushner, Jr., Flynn and Page are a shoe-in for prison time. It's looking more likely that Trump is compromised, too.

                        If we don't, if the GOP won't hold their party leader accountable, the US is conceding that as long as you back the winner foreign influence is acceptable and invited in any US election. Can you imagine the Chinese openly buying mayors or whole councils to guarantee waste disposal or high risk manufacturing in desirable cities of the US, up to and including hacking voter rolls to purge likely dissenters for Election Day? Mexico publicly paying off border towns to create sanctuaries and accomplices in illicit border trade?

                        Foreign influence is unacceptable and always has been.

                        I know, you've got some stories on Breitbart about this happening before. That it ever happened before doesn't mean we allow it now. This is a crime and it must be punished.
                        Okay, saved for posterity, but I am still wondering
                        about that whole evidence thing?

                        I see you are building straw men and false equivalencirs again too.

                        I just would have thought if you are so vehement about this with no evidence you would have been more vigilant about he Dems with actual proof of interfering with elections. Even if you dispute the foregn stuff, you know they did it within their own party. But hey, Jr took a meeting, send them to jail.

                        Okay, thanks, you will admit nothing about your own party, but the GOP are guilty.

                        This is has been an enlightening thread.

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                        • WHAT PART OF TURNING OVER HIS OWN EMAILS SHOWING COLLUSION/EVIDENCE IS LOST ON YOU? Goddamnit, I hate to yell, but you are a dense motherfucker. Stop being a tool and admit it you stupid jackass. Lesser evidence had landed people in jail for years.

                          We arent talking about the Dems (except you). They arent in power you dumbass.

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                          • Originally posted by DandyDon View Post
                            WHAT PART OF TURNING OVER HIS OWN EMAILS SHOWING COLLUSION/EVIDENCE IS LOST ON YOU? Goddamnit, I hate to yell, but you are a dense motherfucker. Stop being a tool and admit it you stupid jackass. Lesser evidence had landed people in jail for years.

                            We arent talking about the Dems (except you). They arent in power you dumbass.
                            Because that isn't evidence. That may very well have been intent to collude if they had exchanged information although that is even doubtful.

                            Havent you noticed that not one single person on the planet earth has come up with statute or actual crime yet?

                            You cant cat just say treason because it sounds good. I have posted numerous attorneys here, both left and right saying that those emails prove nothing.

                            Why are you calling me names? Could you please link me the attorney who actually has stated the charge or statute?

                            Dont be angry man. I am sorry this is turning into another bust for you guys. Jr was wrong, and looked to be willing to commit a possible campaign violation, but he didn't.

                            Settle down Beavis.

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                            • Originally posted by IwasGunzen View Post

                              Because that isn't evidence. That may very well have been intent to collude if they had exchanged information although that is even doubtful.

                              Havent you noticed that not one single person on the planet earth has come up with statute or actual crime yet?

                              You cant cat just say treason because it sounds good. I have posted numerous attorneys here, both left and right saying that those emails prove nothing.

                              Why are you calling me names? Could you please link me the attorney who actually has stated the charge or statute?

                              Dont be angry man. I am sorry this is turning into another bust for you guys. Jr was wrong, and looked to be willing to commit a possible campaign violation, but he didn't.

                              Settle down Beavis.
                              Lets go over this one more time. There is no statute for collusion, its a political term. The statute will be conspiracy, and its coming. Maybe not for Cheeto, but for his circle.

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                              • This is a Clinton supporter, donor, and Lawyer from Harvard Dandy, what do you know he doesn't?

                                He is even saying if information was transmitted unless they were involved in acquiring it is still not a crime. So if you are waiting for news there was information exchanged, that would still now make it a crime.
                                 

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