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    What's a reproducibility crisis?

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    You could have done a call out to google. Are you going to try and claim climate science results can't be reproduced?

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    • #3
      Not specifically climate science. Not even necessary for that one. So much proof of collusion it's hard to tell the legit scientists from the hacks. I suppose if they were told their checks would clear no matter what they found, the results of their work wouldn't be tainted with grant-whore desperation.

      Maybe the better term is, "Replication Crisis". Seems like it should be a footnote to every study, particularly the ones which tell me I'm eating/driving/breathing/consuming/reading/sleeping/thinking in ways which are destroying my health and my planet.

      I don't claim to be educated, which is the fattest pitch you'll ever get. But I wonder if there's a tipping point to the whole science industry. When 50% of studies can't be replicated, that wasn't the point. Now that it's 2/3rds, is it time to question what exactly the Sam-hell is going on in the science/conspiracy business?

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      • #4
        Uh huh, global secret conspiracy theory in climate science but no one can pick holes in the publicly available evidence and analysis. Sure.

        A replication crisis is where things can't be replicated. Doesn't tend to apply to the hard sciences, it's more a soft sciences problem like psychology, psychiatry, sociology, things where the raw data is not solid. Also marketing masquerading as science, which tends to come from food, health supplements and big pharma, areas where there is an actual financial interest conflict rather than an imaginary one. Alternatively where replication is just very time consuming and expensive, like big medical trials. Try reading about it outside of whatever kooky anti science blog you came across some distorted version on.

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        • #5
          https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q..._BDG0QgQMIJDAA

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          • #6
            Didn't read that did you? It's a bunch of links telling you what I just told you about the problem being in things like medicine and psychology, and a bunch of links irrelevant to 'replication crisis' that happened to hit a keyword. You're trying to argue things you do not understand. Put some effort in and try to understand what you are talking about.

            Dupe.

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            • #7
              I know that, having clicked on some of those links, that there is a shit-ton of discussion about how come so much scientific research and test studies can't be replicated. The discussion is paid for, too. I understand the pressure of producing the required results, and have read and listened to a great deal of it, including admissions from academics that sometimes they cheat just to be able to continue their work. I mean, hey. How else are the coeds going to learn about science?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by charliesheen View Post
                I know that, having clicked on some of those links, that there is a shit-ton of discussion about how come so much scientific research and test studies can't be replicated. The discussion is paid for, too. I understand the pressure of producing the required results, and have read and listened to a great deal of it, including admissions from academics that sometimes they cheat just to be able to continue their work. I mean, hey. How else are the coeds going to learn about science?
                Which of those links you just tried to derp at me are you seeking to rely on here? Why don't you just admit your anti science blog source that mislead you in the first place? Ashamed of it?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by charliesheen View Post
                  I know that, having clicked on some of those links, that there is a shit-ton of discussion about how come so much scientific research and test studies can't be replicated. The discussion is paid for, too. I understand the pressure of producing the required results, and have read and listened to a great deal of it, including admissions from academics that sometimes they cheat just to be able to continue their work. I mean, hey. How else are the coeds going to learn about science?
                  Well obviously the answer is that God, after having so much fun planting fossils for us to find, loves making scientific research inconsistent. It's all a farce. God controls everything and the only reason you are wealthy and healthy is because you are one of God's new chosen people, which is better than being a Jew.

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                  • #10
                    You know, if just one academic is lazy and cheats, that means they all do.

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                    • #11
                      You called out Zach11 and got Analhamster.

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                      • #12
                        I just let AH dismiss a shit-ton of phoney research by not arguing back when he said it's "confined" to (insert laundry list of whatever). Most of the writings on the subject are from the community itself. It's referred to as a crisis for some reason. Over half the experimental results can't be replicated. In some fields it's more than two thirds. But hey, the topic is too complex to discuss outside the lab.

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                        • #13
                          And FTR, I take back the "grant-whore" thing. Not using the term again here. I am close with somebody doing groundbreaking research on diabeetus, and he runs his department on many different sources of funding. Like being a politician, I guess.

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                          • #14
                            I donate every year to ALS research because I lost a father and a brother to it, and it may take me. A lot of their research is of the "can't be replicated" trials, but that doesnt stop my support. Advancements are often slow in these fields, but that doesnt mean we shouldnt do them.

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                            • #15
                              Good luck Don. I have a family member going down to PLS. I don't know which is worse: a fast miserable death or a slow miserable death.

                              Oh, and according to upChuck, you need to fund ALS research and your care during your descent into ALS personally, since leeching off federal dollars, like grant money and Medicare, is just increasing social spending and the deficit.

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