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    Quote Originally Posted by nuno75 View Post
    I dream of someday being a stay-at-home dad.
    Try running over your foot with a forklift.

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    So far no good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turfmunch View Post
    Are you suggesting that a stay at home mother did not work hard to get to that point?
    I wouldn't be able to generalise to all stay at home mothers. Perhaps you have lost sight of the specific one that is the subject of the thread:

    So Romney brings her into the campaign by repeatedly saying she's his expert on women and the economy, and Rosen points out she's a stay at home millionaire mum and therefore doesn't really have any experience relevant to 99% of yankee mums.

    That's actually pretty reasonable.

    “His wife has actually never worked a day in her life,” Rosen said on Anderson Cooper’s “AC360” show. “She’s never really dealt with the kinds of economic issues that a majority of the women in this country are facing in terms of how do we feed our kids, how do we send them to school and how do we — why we worry about their future.
    Really, what part of that do y'all disagree with?

    This appears to be a Talking Points attempt to deflect from the bad PR from the War on Women talking point. Y'all should stop falling for this stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnalHamster View Post
    I wouldn't be able to generalise to all stay at home mothers. Perhaps you have lost sight of the specific one that is the subject of the thread:

    So Romney brings her into the campaign by repeatedly saying she's his expert on women and the economy, and Rosen points out she's a stay at home millionaire mum and therefore doesn't really have any experience relevant to 99% of yankee mums.

    That's actually pretty reasonable.


    Really, what part of that do y'all disagree with?

    This appears to be a Talking Points attempt to deflect from the bad PR from the War on Women talking point. Y'all should stop falling for this stuff.
    Perhaps you should pay closer attention. I didnt enter this thread until I dod so to respond to jcr's idiotic statement about moms in general. All of my discussions since have been in that vein of discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turfmunch View Post
    Perhaps you should pay closer attention. I didnt enter this thread until I dod so to respond to jcr's idiotic statement about moms in general. All of my discussions since have been in that vein of discussion.
    Actually you entered it to respond to vodo's comment about Romney's wife. You've also been responding to what I have typed, one would presume, regardless of whether you had earlier typed something to jcr. Try reading a) the subject of the thread and b) the post you are responding to.

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    You win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turfmunch View Post
    You win.


    Wrong thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turfmunch View Post
    My wife is a "stay at home" mom. She gets up at 5:30 every morning to go for a run until 6:30. After a quick shower, she gets the kids up at 6:45. The next hour and fifteen minutes is controlled chaos. The kids go to school at 8:00. After dropping them off, she returns home and cleans up from the tornado that is called getting ready for school. At 9:30 she returns to school where she is a "room mom" helping the teacher with students that need extra attention. At noon she leaves there and usually heads to one of 3 non profits whose boards she sits on. If she doesnt need to go to one of those she heads home to handle laundry, finishing cleaning, prepping for dinner, gardening/flowers etc. She's there until 3:00 at which time she returns to school to pick up the kids. By 3:30 or so she's back home and starts in on homework. The standard rule from school is 5 minutes of work per year of age. That means the 12 year old has 60 minutes, the 9 year old has 45 and the 6 year old has 30. All told thats 2 hours and 15 minutes of homework help. In between all of that she's finishing up things like laundry, cleaning and dinner. After dinner, we either all head to the gym for an hours workout with the kids or sit down with them to play a game/watch TV etc. By the time we get home/done its usually about 8:30. The 6 year old heads to bed and the others have another 90 minutes to themselves. During that 90 minutes she and I have time to ourselves. Around 10 she and the girls usually head off to bed to start the process all over again.

    You tell her she doesn't work and she will kick your teeth in.
    Then your wife is nothing like the typical stay at home mom. And yet, even with all her activities, it is still vastly different than working a professional job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dagdaj View Post
    Hah! I thought he was dead.
    I suspect only oldish people will get that.
    JFC, you made me look that up!...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuno75 View Post
    I dream of someday being a stay-at-home dad.
    I actually did, too, after my son was born. My then-wife made over twice as much as me, and I was certainly a better cook and housekeeper than she was, she had no domestic skills at all, still doesn't, not to mention I have minor house repair skills. But she was able to arrange practically free daycare using some tax benefit, and I wound up getting a better job, the one I've been promoted from since. But I would have loved to stay with our boy, even do early home schooling with him.

    Her current husband is also a stay at home dad who has a part-time home business at immigration law. Win-win for her, I guess.

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    So back in January Mitt Romney said: Poor women who stay at home to raise their children should be given federal assistance for child care so that they can enter the job market and "have the dignity of work."

    Which means being a single stay-at-home parent is only reserved for the well-to-do.
    Or, that single parenting isnt considered "dignified" work.
    Wondering about the price of day care vs. minimum wage.

    Become a Mormon. then have an extra wife to take care of kids. problem solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dudmuck View Post
    So back in January Mitt Romney said: Poor women who stay at home to raise their children should be given federal assistance for child care so that they can enter the job market and "have the dignity of work."

    Which means being a single stay-at-home parent is only reserved for the well-to-do.
    Or, that single parenting isnt considered "dignified" work.
    Wondering about the price of day care vs. minimum wage.

    Become a Mormon. then have an extra wife to take care of kids. problem solved.
    I question the authenticity of that quote. It seems to only appear on left-leaning sites, and never claims the entire statement to be a direct quote, but rather only parts of it, as you did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuno75 View Post
    I question the authenticity of that quote. It seems to only appear on left-leaning sites, and never claims the entire statement to be a direct quote, but rather only parts of it, as you did.
    The video of him saying it:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...bZJT_blog.html

    Seems pretty reasonable to me though, he's saying claiming welfare is less dignified than working. Which I think is true. It doesn't really say anything about 'homemakers' who are not claiming welfare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnalHamster View Post
    The video of him saying it:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...bZJT_blog.html

    Seems pretty reasonable to me though, he's saying claiming welfare is less dignified than working. Which I think is true. It doesn't really say anything about 'homemakers' who are not claiming welfare.
    Nowhere in that video does he say what dudmuck says that he states. Like I said, "dignity of work" is the only actual quote. Dudmuck's implication is that women who CHOOSE to stay at home for the purpose of raising their children should be made to go to work, whereas Romney said is that people on government assistance should have work requirements, whether they have children or not.

    The overall idea is supposed to be that Romney is a hypocrite but I'm pretty sure his wife isn't on assistance and has never been on assistance, which is the crux of his entire point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuno75 View Post
    Nowhere in that video does he say what dudmuck says that he states. Like I said, "dignity of work" is the only actual quote. Dudmuck's implication is that women who CHOOSE to stay at home for the purpose of raising their children should be made to go to work, whereas Romney said is that people on government assistance should have work requirements, whether they have children or not.

    The overall idea is supposed to be that Romney is a hypocrite but I'm pretty sure his wife isn't on assistance and has never been on assistance, which is the crux of his entire point.
    His quote wasn't particularly inaccurate, he did specify poor people, i.e. those on welfare. The inaccurate part as I said was claiming there's some implied criticism of homemakers who are supported by their husbands, which itself is an inaccurate criticism of what Rosen said. Y'all are as bad as each other.

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    I agree with Rosen and I just don't think Romney was talking about people who are comparable to his own wife.

    And I will probably vote for Obama over Romney. I dislike Romney.

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    Which one you want to have a beer with is probably the deciding factor, not much to choose from on policy.

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    Romney doesn't drink. Idiot.

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    Yeah, I'm sure he'd never flip flop on his beer policy to win a vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnalHamster View Post
    Which one you want to have a beer with is probably the deciding factor, not much to choose from on policy.
    Quote Originally Posted by ward28 View Post
    Romney doesn't drink. Idiot.
    So that's what the election comes down to, huh? Room temperature tap water or Hennessy?

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